#2sirchat: Gender

Today on #2sirchat we talked about the issue of gender in economically oppressed classrooms. Our topic spanned from girl achievement, to lgbt students, to sexism in ed, and single moms. It was a wild ride, with lots of resources. Hope you enjoy this Storify of #2sirchat.

RT @HappyTeacherLA: Gender includes (girls, feminism, woman tchrs, men tchrs, LGBT stdnts) let’s see where we go at 4pm #2sirchat -diversity issues in ed!
MsSandersTHS
July 10, 2011
Welcome to #2sirchat. Today we’re talking about gender. A topic that is often w/a dffnt focus in economically oppressed/low ses communities.
HappyTeacherLA
July 10, 2011
#2sirchat how do you address gender in your classes? What are some of the biggest issues you see?
MsSandersTHS
July 10, 2011
@MsSandersTHS I address gender, is by showing stories and telling stories of ppl doing things that don’t "match" their gender #2sirchat
HappyTeacherLA
July 10, 2011
@MsSandersTHS @ThalesDream I have an active conversation about gender. I actively stop sexist attitudes. #2sirchat
HappyTeacherLA
July 10, 2011
@MsSandersTHS @HappyTeacherLA We talk openly about it. Students take different positions on discussion points. #2sirchat
ThalesDream
July 10, 2011
#2sirchat There are some excellent articles and resources for teaching and gender differences. http://t.co/VZ4bRJ2
Ron_Peck
July 10, 2011
We also talk openly about how far we’ve come and not come http://www.coax.net/people/lwf/TEXTBOOK.HTM from a 1950’s home ec txt #2sirchat
ThalesDream
July 10, 2011
Some ideas on causes of gender inequality in our schools i.e. sexism and homophobia.
@MsSandersTHS @Edu_Traveler I think the disrespect or sexism I see in schls is directly related to a disrespect of single moms #2sirchat
HappyTeacherLA
July 10, 2011
@HappyTeacherLA @MsSandersTHS A start. Many young mothers were dealing with self-esteem. #2sirchat
Edu_Traveler
July 10, 2011
@MsSandersTHS @HappyTeacherLA My former school has a big young mother population. We had classes for them 1x a week. #2sirchat
Edu_Traveler
July 10, 2011
35% of African-American children and 33% of Hispanic children live in poverty #2sirchat most of these are probably women headed households.
HappyTeacherLA
July 10, 2011
@HappyTeacherLA @MsSandersTHS Single moms are looked down everyday. I see it myself when I walk my daughter anywhere.assumptions! #2sirchat
Edu_Traveler
July 10, 2011
@Edu_Traveler @HappyTeacherLA I was raised by a single mother too in low ses- the ability to empathize is critical #2sirchat
MsSandersTHS
July 10, 2011
@MsSandersTHS @HappyTeacherLA Dads are rewarded for playing a role when mothers are always there. Hard for a young mother #2sirchat
Edu_Traveler
July 10, 2011
I also use ‘Night to his Day – The Social Construction of Gender’ by Judith Lorber for research & discussion http://bit.ly/pY4JGk #2sirchat
ThalesDream
July 10, 2011

Do you have lgbt students in your class? How do you support them? Is there homophobia? How do you deal and/or challenge it?

@ThalesDream have you had to deal with students who are outrightly discriminatory to LGBT students? Dealt with this a lot #2sirchat
MsSandersTHS
July 10, 2011
I have had many LBGT students in my room. Who hasn’t? I am very direct about equal rights and make my stance on equality known. #2sirchat
ThalesDream
July 10, 2011
@ThalesDream I think it’s something we don’t talk about (but shld) in low ses schls, there are so many other problems #2sirchat
HappyTeacherLA
July 10, 2011
@ThalesDream I think getting students to talk opening about these issues is a huge part of changing judgements/ideas #2sirchat
MsSandersTHS
July 10, 2011
@ThalesDream homophobia is directly related to sexism, you have a high disrespect of women, larger problem w/that #2sirchat
HappyTeacherLA
July 10, 2011
But then again, this is MA. Very different from the rest of the nation. Not that we don’t have homophobia. We do. Esp in urban. #2sirchat
ThalesDream
July 10, 2011
@HappyTeacherLA @ThalesDream take TN for example! Banning the discussion of homosexuality AT ALL in its public schools! #2sirchat
MsSandersTHS
July 10, 2011
@MsSandersTHS @HappyTeacherLA WHAT? How is that legal? #2sirchat
ThalesDream
July 10, 2011
@ThalesDream @MsSandersTHS here is the Tennessee you can’t say Gay Bill http://t.co/eglswkZ #2sirchat
HappyTeacherLA
July 10, 2011
@HappyTeacherLA @ThalesDream the law in K-8 http://t.co/aRINnuV #2sirchat
MsSandersTHS
July 10, 2011
The magazine, Rethinking Schools recently had an article on a teacher who came out to her students. http://t.co/FbwArq2 #2sirchat
Edu_Traveler
July 10, 2011
‘My Teacher Is a Lesbian’ • Coming Out at School

A month into my first year of teaching 7th graders in Oakland, Calif., we were in the school library, using the big tables there to spread out as we outlined Africa on poster paper and added geographical features. My students chatted as they worked. "Are you married, Ms Sokolower?"
Grrrl Teacher empowerment. How are women treated at your schools? Could this impact how boys treat women educators?
In regards to most teachers being women. I think ppl feel it wld be a more women empowered envrnmnt bcse of teacher’s gender #2sirchat
HappyTeacherLA
July 10, 2011
Problem: lack of respect young boys give female teachers in our school. Once a boy stopped in hall for me but not my wife. Regular #2sirchat
ThalesDream
July 10, 2011
@MsSandersTHS I think many male teachers play out gender roles. #2sirchat
ThalesDream
July 10, 2011
@docjessm that’s how it’s been set up 4 time infinitum – women teachers with male overseers – quite traditional, still the norm #2sirchat
cajacobson
July 10, 2011
@docjessm this to me is why some boys don’t respect women tchrs, bcse the schl institution doesn’t #2sirchat
HappyTeacherLA
July 10, 2011
@HappyTeacherLA @cajacobson this happens in my school too- the irony is too much to handle at times #2sirchat
MsSandersTHS
July 10, 2011
@HappyTeacherLA @MsSandersTHS @ThalesDream Yep. Women admin don’t get as much room for error. I’ve seen this over and over again #2sirchat
Edu_Traveler
July 10, 2011
@Edu_Traveler which even further proves the deep rooted, institutionalization of sexism in this country/world #2sirchat
MsSandersTHS
July 10, 2011
Now that’s changing, but not changed yet. Push in ED reform is part of tradition – put women in place. Brave tchr to elicit convo #2sirchat
cajacobson
July 10, 2011
We then had an interesting conversation about Michelle Rhee. Some of us agree with her policy and some of us do not, but we all see how sexism is used to control the conversation in regards to her.
@Edu_Traveler &take michelle rhee for ex with D.C. she is hated on constantly for her reform- I think most stems from her gender #2sirchat
MsSandersTHS
July 10, 2011
@MsSandersTHS True. Michelle Rhee’s approach was definitely heightened due to her gender AND race. #2sirchat
Edu_Traveler
July 10, 2011
@MsSandersTHS @Edu_Traveler I think they would hate her less if she were guy, definitely agree with that #2sirchat
HappyTeacherLA
July 10, 2011
@MsSandersTHS I’m not sure Rhee’s demeanor would have been a topic of convo if she was a white male #2sirchat
Edu_Traveler
July 10, 2011
@Edu_Traveler @MsSandersTHS let me stress, I don’t like her policies, but I can look beyond that and see the sexism #2sirchat
HappyTeacherLA
July 10, 2011
@Edu_Traveler agreed! #2sirchat you don’t see Corey Booker getting attacked and he is just as radical as Rhee #2sirchat
MsSandersTHS
July 10, 2011
@MsSandersTHS Rhee definitely runs counter to the quiet Asian female stereotype, but ideas of education "reform" is even worse. #2sirchat
writersgrind
July 10, 2011
O please! stp playing thie pity cardRT @MsSandersTHS: @Edu_Traveler agreed! #2sirchat U dont C Corey Booker ge… (cont) http://deck.ly/~MVTX3
RheeFirst
July 10, 2011
What about the girls?
What about our girls in the classroom? Why so many programs for "at risk" boys and so few for our girls? #2sirchat
writersgrind
July 10, 2011
@writersgrind talked about this early grad rate in NYC 43% for Afri-Amer girls and 37% for Latinas they need help #2sirchat
HappyTeacherLA
July 10, 2011
@writersgrind. It seems like the US doesn’t know how to tackle more than one issue at a time #2sirchat
Edu_Traveler
July 10, 2011
@Edu_Traveler @writersgrind that’s a challenge in economically oppressed communities, one problem at a time #2sirchat
HappyTeacherLA
July 10, 2011
@Edu_Traveler boys hyper-sex+lack self-control in MS; girls awaken in HS + become prey…perhaps why ‘crisis’ differential ?? #2sirchat
cajacobson
July 10, 2011
@HappyTeacherLA #2sirchat In my exper. As Eng tchr, I’ve found greater challenge 2reel in boys. Girls in touch w/sincere expressive voice
Teacheronthemic
July 10, 2011
@writersgrind @Teacheronthemic we have to continue 2 bring up is that girls of color aren’t doing great, just better than the boys #2sirchat
HappyTeacherLA
July 10, 2011
@writersgrind @Teacheronthemic "The diversity paradigm is worried abt input…the equity paradigm is abt output." @VijayPendakur #2sirchat
HappyTeacherLA
July 10, 2011
@Teacheronthemic @writersgrind are outcome for our girls in economically oppressed situations equitable 2 a mddl clss white stdnt? #2sirchat
HappyTeacherLA
July 10, 2011

#2sirchat would like to thank everyone who participated in the discussion today.

We hope you join us on Sunday, July 17 at 4pm Pacific Time, we’ll be talking about privilege. Transcript at HappyTeacherLA.



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